This also explains why some companies try to keep their salary data completely secret. I am sure the monkey's reaction would have been different if she/he had no idea she/he was being cheated out of a lovely grape.
I am a librarian who works in a post-secondary career center. I want to share some of the work search and business resources that I have found useful in my work. I also manage the Facebook group of the same name for library job seekers.
Friday, April 26, 2013
Two Monkeys were Paid Unequally: Excerpt from Frans de Waal's TED Talk
This also explains why some companies try to keep their salary data completely secret. I am sure the monkey's reaction would have been different if she/he had no idea she/he was being cheated out of a lovely grape.
Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Maybe it's time to ask for a raise
Thursday, July 26, 2012
Value of Education from PayScale.com
The discussion was wide ranging and had a good mix of speakers--a marketer, an economist and a school counsellor--though the moderator could have done a bit more to distribute time amongst all of the panelists.
A story from NPR about a high achieving student choosing the trades over college seems to echo some of the arguments made by the speakers, while also addressing the only the remedial student enters the trades argument. It's a shame that we are still dealing with that stereotype, but this weird belief that only the stupid, usually male, students become tradespeople just won't die in the minds of some parents--and kids.
One area they didn't touch on was when you needed a degree, or a graduate degree, to do the job that you want. For example, if your local authority only hires teachers with a graduate degree to teach in the K-12 schools, you can go to school for a year to be a Teaching Assistant--but that is not a Teacher. And without the four year degree you can never progress into higher level administration or even into instructional or curricular design. In some cases college is the only way to get into a profession, so suggesting that they just pursue the "lite" version of the career is also a waste of their time and money.
However, their point about taking the associate degree, getting some work experience and pursuing additional education with the assistance of their employer is one we try to impress on our students all the time.
There are also some cases where a trade and a degree can go hand in hand. For example, a person who pursues a degree in history but who also works as a carpenter--whether as a full-time worker and a part-time student, or vice versa--may be able to use their trade to leverage their degreed career. As a carpenter and a historian, they could work in a museum (or form their own company) to build and repair exhibits; they can work in historical interpretation as a carpenter; they can also use their skills and knowledge to preserve historic homes or buildings. I wish sometimes that people would consider how a trade and a college degree can enhance one another, rather than the liberal arts depriving our economy of a plumber. (In fact, a chemistry class would have helped the plumber who told me that I could boil lead out of my water--but I consider him to be unusual and not the norm.)
They are also trying to continue the conversation on Twitter with the hashtag #valueofed, but they couldn't have anticipated the Twitter shutdown during their hangout.
Points to PayScale.com for using Google Hangouts. I'm looking forward to more of these.
Wednesday, June 13, 2012
Pay Equity in Crimefighting
Friday, May 18, 2012
Do Men Really Earn More than Women? Infographic from Payscale.com

Friday, January 20, 2012
Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Thursday, May 26, 2011
Salary Tutor by Jim Hopkinson
Learning how to negotiate—for anything, not just salary—is a vital skill, and you will have to use your persuasion and negotiation skills many times in your career.* Negotiating a salary, even your very first salary, is possible and the Salary Tutor explains how to do it in simple, clear, encouraging language. Heck, the author even throws in a flowchart.
I thought the real strength of this book was the preparation of the Industry Research of Salaries (IRS) document, which includes the lowest salary you would accept, the industry standard and the top of the range for the position. The author also includes sources for research (PayScale.com, Glassdoor, Salary.com), though I would also include some of the salary tools from vertical search engines and industry specific salary surveys, if you have access to them, to your research. The author recommends including this document in your portfolio, so it is prepared for interviewers should the issue come up, and to make several different versions of this document. There is nothing like research and preparation for defending your position in a negotiation, so this is not a step to be skipped. Even if you are never allowed to negotiate your salary—which can happen in a union, non-profit or government work environment—it cannot hurt to know if you are making what the position deserves, especially if additional duties are added to your position at a later date.
The author also has some solid advice for freelancers and creative professionals who need to negotiate each and every contract or service for a client, which is not found in many salary negotiation books. So the structure of the book follows: author’s salary memoir, how to negotiate for the first time, negotiating a raise or promotion and negotiating for freelancers. Considering how short the book was, meaning it could be read in an evening, I was impressed with how comprehensive the book was overall.
Since negotiation is important part of career management, I would strongly recommend this book as a simple primer on negotiation. There will be other resources that can supplement the information in this book, but I think it is one of the best introductions to this process that I have ever encountered.
*For librarians, the first time you have to negotiate a discount or a license, you will wish you had spent some time learning how to persuade salespeople to take less from your budget.
Thursday, January 27, 2011
Women less interested in competitive pay structures
Thursday, October 7, 2010
I'm doing a bad job. Can I still get a raise?
Sadly they may not feel like they are doing a good job, when there is nothing they can do about the nostalgia that the patrons had for the old librarian. This is not a feeling that you can fix--you can only make new memories. I hope they are better ones, but some will suck and possibly hurt your feelings.
Lucas' advice for getting a raise based on over work seems sound, but it is going to take some gumption to go into the supervisor's office and ask for additional training for something that you were hired to do--and what you feel you need more training for. If this is the case, be sure to ask for something that develops your duties--you learned about general collection development and now you need funds to go to a conference that is specific for YA materials. Maybe you need more training in developing reading skills or reaching newcomer patrons. But make sure you ask for training in something that is step two in the process and not the stuff you should have known.
It is also incorrect to value your salary as the same a person who just departed after 20 years--most people will get raises based on duration of service, if only to keep that person in the position. And it sounds like she worked hard for the money and they needed to keep her. You are not yet entitled to the money to entice a long-term, knowledgeable employee to stay. You are entitled to more pay if you need to assume more duties than you were originally hired to perform.
Tuesday, September 14, 2010
Young, childless women make more than men
This came my way via BNET, but that article had a weird analysis with suggesting how to appeal to these young womens' wallets.
The firm that conducted the research, Reach Advisors, provides more of the popular press reaction to their study.
Thursday, September 2, 2010
ALA-APA Salary Survey: Librarian - Public and Academic released
Yeah, so I missed it. It's September; sue me.
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
NACE Salary Calculator
And yes, it works for librarians.
To use it, you need to indicate the region where you are looking for work, the type of work you are looking for, the education that you possess and the amount of experience you have in the field. The calculator reports the amount of compensation you can expect to receive. If available, it also tells you how many salaries it used to come up with this figure.
For example, I tried Librarian in Flagstaff, Arizona and gave the minimum requirements of required degree and less than one year of experience. The response told me how many librarians were employed in the region (80), provided the starting salary $23,370 and suggested that a librarian with this level of experience was most likely to be offered a salary of $28,200. The calculator also reported that the salary information does not include any other compensation information, such as benefits.
This is a useful tool not only for recent graduates and current librarians but for our clients that are researching salary information to plan a move or to include this information on a cover letter.
Thursday, January 21, 2010
2009 SLA Salary Survey
Thursday, May 14, 2009
ACRL and CUPA HR update academic library descriptions
There is some attached salary information, but without looking at the results, I can't tell you how many libraries responded with salary data (and it isn't all the ACRL members) and you would also have to adjust that data for college size and geographic location, so supplement it with some research into the collective agreement of the institution and the salary survey of the local professional library association.
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Pay gap between childless women and women-with-children
From the summary of the study:
On average, the earnings of women with children were 12% less than those of women without children, and this gap increased with the number of children: with one child, the gap was 9%; with two children, it was 12%; and with three of more children, 20%.
The study also looked at the differences between single mothers, singletons without sprouts, and partnered women with children. And yes, it was worse to be a single mother:
A comparison between single mothers and childless single women showed that the average earnings gap was close to 20%. But for married/common-law mothers versus childless women in couples, the gaps was only about 10%.
Other interesting findings from the study included that the less time off with children (a gap) could positively influence earnings, as well as delaying a family.
Since so many librarians are women, I thought the study would be interesting; maybe we should just be interested in the results since so many of us know women.
We should also be interested in this study, especially in light of this post that I saw on Appetite for Equal Rights, Bad economy causing women to get naked.
Thursday, November 6, 2008
WowJobs Canada Salary Search
As shown above, you can also compare salaries between types of jobs or by location. I went Canada-wide to get an idea of the basic salaries, but you can--and should, if you are asked to provide a quote--search geographic-specific.
Where do they get the numbers? From job postings that supply salary information. It is not clear, when a range is used, if they use the bottom of the range or the top of the range to create their calculation. Not every job provides salary information, so it isn't taking data from all of the postings that the engine has scraped. To ameliorate this issue, WowJobs is supplying a confidence level: how sure are they that the numbers are accurate? and including this with the results that you receive for your search.
This service is currently in beta, so we can expect more improvements as they get more sophisticated with the enormous amount of raw data supplied in a posting. Maybe they'll run a map mash-up that will let us see where particular jobs are concentrated, based on their historical data? For example, more postings in Toronto in June or October?
You can use this search engine to supplement the salary information that you find from other professional library sources.
Monday, October 6, 2008
Think like a "pig", make more money?
But the women who were surveyed who tend to hold more traditional views, make $1,500 less than women with less traditional beliefs--again, without stating were they lived, worked and did their nails.
However, it does reinforce my belief that if you don't know how much you are worth, you don't know how much to ask for.
Thursday, August 14, 2008
Mean librarians make more
You can also get the ACRL salary survey data for free, and remember to check with SLA for their (not free) data. I think this data should be free to independent members so they can negotiate their salaries with better, more trustworthy data, but the last time I suggested this at a presentation, a member of the audience piped, but we can get it at the library. It is, at least, reliable data, and you might want to consult the tables prior to an interview.
Thursday, August 7, 2008
Money talk taboo
Many salary survey sites are getting around the talking with people problem by using the salary information posted in job ads. However, this is merely a range, and they don't know what number the person was offered and what she accepted for the position.
Compound this with most people don't know how much money they make, just that they have some, and you can understand why salary data is unreliable.

